Thursday, October 14, 2021

Philippines Trip Report From The Past 2004 Bangkok To Manila

 Southeast Asian Trip Reports From The Past - Bangkok To Manila 2004

Since I was traveling with someone who also lives in Thailand, we took a taxi to BKK airport and boarded our Phil Air flights to MNL. He paid 9300 and I paid 9500 for the flight -- which isn't bad for the flight. As usual, we arrived early at BKK because you never know what security and check-in lines are going to be like. Today was nothing - and we were through immigration and security in 15 minutes. The plane was late, but only slightly. 

The only problem we had was in regards to luggage. We were both carrying luggage on and both had luggage that would easily fit in the overhead compartment. However, it weighed more than 10k, and that required that we check it into luggage. When we got on board though, we noticed that one of the flight attendants was flying a flat-screen monitor with her that was both overweight and oversize -- but it seemed to be ok for her to take up a seat for the screen.

The trip was uneventful - which is always nice. We arrived in MNL and made our way through the terminal. I looked for ATM machines -- of which I found 2 -- but neither were interconnected to any other network but the local bank. Money-changers were easy to find.

At the departure terminal, all of the taxis were those without meters. All prices were pre-set and handled by "assistants" before you could get into the taxi. We asked a security officer about meter taxis and he told us to go to the arrival floor. We did and found a meter taxi. Just like Bkk though, getting them to use the meter is a pain. He did though after we opened the door to get out and took us to our hotel.

We were staying in the Copacabana hotel across from the Edsa entertainment complex. Rooms were HUGE - two rooms actually, one with a full kitchen and one bedroom. Each room is about 15x18. The bedroom closed off from the kitchen/living room - but only the bedroom was aircon. The shower was decent - quality showers, as most of you know, are important to me. I want a firehose washing me down. It wasn't quite that, but it wasn't bad.

I stayed at the Copa again on the way home but stayed in the “studio” room.  It was just as nice, although not as large.  It was on the backside of the hotel which made it MUCH quieter than my previous room at the front.

We ate one meal at the restaurant at the hotel - and it was decent at best. Copa hotel is located next door to Heritage Hotel, which is part of the Heritage Casino. 

ATM’S

I still needed an atm - so we had to search. If you walk out of the Copa, turn left and walk toward the heritage casino, which is a corner, and turn left at the corner. Walkabout 2000 feet and you will see the Metro Bank, which has an enclosed ATM machine that worked just fine. However, per transaction limits here are 4000 pesos (less than $75), which can be a pain. But you can get repeat transactions. I don't know the fees yet of the machine -- but I believe there are fees of $2-3 USD per transaction.

After the trip, I reviewed my transactions and found that the rate I was given at the ATM was .5 less than the cash rate at the money exchanger.  When you factor in the ATM fee of $1.50 that I pay to my home bank, I effectively received an exchange rate of 54.02 peso/dollar – when the common exchange rate at the time was 55.65.  Using ATM’s was NOT a good idea

here; considering both how difficult it was to get a working ATM and the terrible low withdrawal limits.  I should have brought USD and bought Pesos from the exchangers.

Also, after reviewing my credit card charges (used only for hotels), I really got killed.  Central Park in Angeles used an unfair rate to convert from dollars to pesos; then added 5% to the total to cover their fees.  THEN by the time it was converted on my bill, I had lost more than 1% of the current rate.  Bad choice to use cards.

We also ate at a restaurant that I am told is owned by the owner of Firehouse. I can't remember the exact name, but it was Mama something Pizzeria, located two blocks from Edsa on the same side of the street. This is a small restaurant, 6-7 tables, but the food and service were nice. The pizza was REALLY good.

At night we went to the Edsa complex and visited EVERY bar/gogo there. Girls were friendly, and employees were slightly pushy for lady drinks - although not as much as some in Angeles, as we would soon know.  But the servers would press you to choose girls to take.  My record was 15 seconds in a bar before a server came to me, pointed to a dancer, and asked if I would like to “take that girl tonight”.

We bar hopped until 4am and had a great time. There were some definite cuties here -- and a few hidden gems.

I had heard so much about the Firehouse that I was truly disappointed in it. First, I had one woman attach to me and would not leave me alone about a lady drink -- kept poking me, and gently hitting me, saying "buy me a lady drink" over and over. Finally, I had enough, and turned to her with the eyes that said "Leave me the fuck alone". No, guys, this was not an attractive little urchin that needed attention -- this was an older girl that should have retired -- and probably never got barfined hence the pushy attitude.

Plus, I probably look like a newbie and these girls are masters at playing on the guilt and "uncomfortable" situation they can put guys in. All of this was happening next to the mamasan (who knew and was sitting with my friend). When I told her what happened (as she heard me telling my friend about it), she was beyond apologetic and said that is not a normal firehouse and she didn't know what happened.

There was a really cute Lucy Loo look-a-like on the stage that was adorable to watch and play with -- but I didn't take her. The drinking, flying and lack of sleep hit me and sent me back to the hotel along so I could save up for Angeles.

I was back in Edsa and Firehouse on the way back home.  I do have to say that there are absolute stunners in this group.  Barfines were 1000pesos ($18USD) and short-time was 2000 pesos  ($36USD).  Count on at least a 500peso bar tab for just you and the girl you are interested in.  ($9USD).

DANCERS / GRO’S / SERVERS

If you are new to Phil travel as I was, then you need to know that they are different “types” of girls in the bars.  This is a good indication of how it works in Manila especially.

The first group is the “dancer” which needs no explanation; they are usually on the stage or rotating with other girls for stage time.  Dancers not currently “on shift” are free to sit and extract lady drinks from anyone who will give in.  Sit in a bar for 30 minutes and you will spot the “professional drink naughty girls” as well.   [2019:   Hahahahaah]

Now one thing is different in the Phil from Thailand.  If a girl is dancing, you may signal her down to sit with you if you are buying a drink.  She may sit with you through the end of her dance set and during her “off-shift” time.  But when it is time for her to dance again, you either must buy another drink or she must dance.  In other words, they may sit with you for about 30 minutes per drink.

Now what is really different is this scenario:  One minute before it is time for her to dance, you call her over and ask her to sit and buy a drink for her.  Immediately now, her “group” goes to the stage, but she is not obligated to go and dance during this set.  She can stay with you through this set and her off-shift time.  This is not the same as Thailand.  In Thailand, the girls must return to the stage to dance unless they are barfined.  

The second group is the “GRO” or “Guest Relations Officer”.  These girls do not dance, and move around freely in the audience.  They usually come to you and begin massaging you (for which tips and lady drinks are expected) or they sit down and begin a conversation.  They will be seated less than one minute when at least one server will ask you to buy the GRO a drink.  The second and third servers will usually be there in short succession.  After the third request to buy her a drink, provided you weren’t interested and didn’t buy a drink, the GRO will usually get the message and move on.

That is when the second GRO will sit down.  Repeat the above paragraph. Over.  And Over.  

The third group is the servers and mamasan’s and what I call mamasan assistants.  All they do is go around and wave their hands in a sweeping gesture toward the girls on stage, just to make sure you know where the girls are located.  Then they will point to certain girls and ask if they would like to take that one for the night.  

Some guys are really going to disagree with me here, but this pushy shit continues until you tell them something.  I have never had this problem except in the Philippines so I had to adjust quickly.  And I have been in Thailand for years.

When they bring you a girl and want her to stay with you, “Thank you, yes, you are beautiful, but I prefer to pick my own girls, Thank you.”.  

When they point to a girl and want you to take the girl, “Thank you but I am shopping right now” or “thank you but I am looking around”, or “thank you but I haven’t found what interests me yet”.  Be careful with the last one because then they want to be really helpful and “help” you find what interests you.

When the servers ask if you would like to buy this girl, and that girl, and her sister a lady drink, “No, thank you”, and look them in eye.  They are NOT used to being turned down and looked in the eye!  That was our best defense.  Too many guys just mumble “yeah, ok”.  After a few turn-downs, we found it was very tense for a few moments for them – but the more we did it, the less tense it was for us!  LOL

Now, if the girl that comes to you is the girl you want or a girl you want to talk to, then by all means, ask her to sit and buy her a drink.  But I usually got the drink naughty girls and the girls that I would never have any interest in.  The girls that I wanted never played this game – I always called them when I was interested.  Your mileage and experience may vary.

CHERRY GIRLS 

The phenomenon of cherry girls or “virgins” was never something I had really experienced.  Sure we had a few in Pattaya, and I knew of a few in Phnom Penh.  But I wasn’t prepared for the sheer volume of cherry girls that I found in Angeles.

There are a few points of interest though about the cherry girl.  First, when a girl gets her “license” or “ID” from the health unit and the government, she must declare whether she is a virgin or not.  If so, they add the letter “V” to the number that appears at the top left of her ID.  After losing her virginity, she has a new ID issued to her without the “V”.

And second, do I believe that they are all virgins?  No.  What I do believe is that the cherry girl concept allows many girls to enter the bar business without the pressure of feeling as though they are “obligated” to have sex for money.  After a few months of being in the bar and around the customers, (and quite often spending nights at hotels with customers, albeit without intercourse), they decide they are ready and make the plunge.

That is where the contradiction lies.  Others have told me that the club does NOT get any of the cherry money.  And I was told that many of the girls do not collect any additional fee for losing their cherry other than the standard barfine.  They decide they are ready and choose a customer they like and are comfortable with.  Two different mamasans at two different bars said that the club didn’t see any additional money from a cherry girl.

That part of the story almost reinforces the belief that they may not all be cherry – but are taking their time to adjust to the bar life and the concept of sex for money.  

MANILA to ANGELES:

Our flight to Angeles wasn't until late afternoon so we checked out of the hotel, had lunch in their restaurant, next to the pool, and then left our luggage with the desk.

We took off on foot, walked back toward -- but past -- Metro Bank, and turned left at the first major street after. There was a McDonald's and many shops on this street - but we kept walking until it hit a really large divided street with shops and malls everywhere.  This was a market.  The locals told me this was the “knock off” market.  They also told me not to buy anything because everything was fake and “no good” or “not real”.  

SMART SIM CARD

I stopped to buy a SMART sim card for my GSM phone. I chose SMART because they partner with Yahoo which means I could stay online with Yahoo Instant Messenger on my phone, as I do in Thailand. Sim was 200pesos (less than $4USD) and had 50pesos (less than $1USD) in credit. I later bought 300peso in credit.

There are many ways to refill your phone in the Phil.  One is to buy a 300 or 500 peso card, which then gives you 60 days of use); or you can buy 30, 60, 115 peso bumps from various vendors.  However, these bumps only give you from 7-15 days of validity so be careful what you buy.  After your time is up, your number will not be deleted for 4 months – according to the SMART brochure.

[2019:  I have the same telephone number that I received in 2004}

One the way to the Metro Bank and the end of Fields avenue as you turn to go to the bank is a shop across the street that sells recharge cards and discounts the card at face value.  For instance, a 300 peso card is 288 pesos.  Granted, it is only an about $.25USD discount, but if you are on your way to the bank, might as well save a few more pesos.

My friend isn't one for walking through shops and markets, so I knew this would be a stretch, but he handled it like a trooper and actually seemed to enjoy it. This was the real Manila -- we didn't see another foreigner the entire day we walked this market.

Everything from clothes, to CDs, DVDs, stereos, speakers, blankets, and everything else was available at this market. This was a supply market -- as we saw some shops with bags and bags of bras and panties by the multiple gross! In other words, this is where the smaller shop owners must come to buy their resale goods.

On my return home, I stopped here again and bought three VCD pornos for 35peso each ($1.90USD total).  When I got back to Pattaya, they turned out to all be copies of the same MUSIC CD.  Yep, they got me!

Although we didn't buy anything, we had a good time and was able to look at many unique products. It would be worth another visit just to kill a day and look more closely.

The girls here were SO SHY, it was difficult for them to look us in the face when we smiled at them. As I said, this was truly the working Manila -- a different community than Edsa.

We returned to the hotel to gather our luggage and head to the airport. We were flying SE Air (South East Asian Airlines) to Angeles. We paid 815 pesos for the flight ($15??? USD) which was to last 30 minutes. None of the security body scanners at the airport (domestic terminal) worked, so we were subjected to everything but a body cavity search. It was unbelievable.

I swear, I think the security screener intentionally squeezed my dick.  I’m sure he was disappointed.  I know I was.  

At the counter, our baggage was weighed, then we were weighed. There is a very strict baggage allowance on these small flights and I was glad that I packed light.

I'm always leery when I need to be weighed to get on a plane.  On the plane, there was a row of single seats on one side and a row of double seats on the other.  There were only two men seated on the single-seat side.  During the flight, one turned to the other and said “Do you realize that the two of us are offsetting the weight of all of the passengers on the other side?”

We went through a second security check after paying our 100 peso departure tax. The second check wasn't as bad, and there were nobody cavity searches.

Waiting for the flight, we watched the Olympics and waited. This flight was also late, but not long. We boarded, got the typical speech about security items, and took off. I've flown small planes before, but I have to hand it to the pilots - they handled this plane extremely well.

What I hated about this flight was the constant smell of jet fuel. It was a sickening smell that stayed with us the entire time we flew. I don't know why -- but it never seemed to go away.

We arrived at the deserted Angeles airport (called "Clark"). WOW. What an airport. This is a HUGE place that is literally sitting idle. I don't know all the history but I was told that it used to be an international hub where flights from around the world are based. Not anymore, however.

Taxis were called by the airline and we waited 30 minutes for them. When we arrived at the hotel, the driver decided to see if we knew what the correct rate was. My friend didn't know exactly, but he knew enough so the driver began to laugh and the price came down to something more reasonable. 

Most likely we still paid too much - but you have a choice here - taxi or walk. There are NO taxis sitting at this airport. We paid 300pesos (less than $6USD) for our ride.

From this point, I don't remember what day things happened as I was not taking notes. So from here on out, the time is mixed.

CENTRAL PARK HOTEL

Our hotel is the Central Park hotel, across the street from the Winchester Club, named after the same club in Pattaya/Jomtien. Central Park is a newly remodeled hotel -- so unique in the sense that they give "five-star hotel service". Every employee in the hotel knows your name -- from front desk to the manager of housekeeping. You are greeted by first name all the time.

We didn't eat or drink in the hotel, but both are readily available.

Need to attach a map of Angeles with the location of this hotel! It is a great place to stay and highly recommended.

After checking in, we cleaned up and began the Odyssey through the clubs. In some of the clubs, I am able to remember more than others. Some are a blur, and some I wish I could forget.

Directly across the street from the hotel is the Winchester Club.  One of the owners is a former owner of the Pattaya/Jomtien club of the same name.  There were 70 girls working in this club.  The girls here seemed fun and I barfined from here as well.  

[2019:  Do any of you guys remember Winchester???]

This is the view standing in front of Winchester and the Central Park looking back at the corner.  At the end of the street is the pick-up disco and Pattaya land club on the right – neither of which I visited.  At this street, turn right, then left and you see the restaurant Vernona on top of Lancelot Club.  You will also notice Kokomoz is at the end of this street on the corner.  

Central Park is about two blocks from "home base" or Kokomoz. What a great place to kill an afternoon. If only Pattaya had a Kokomoz on walking street. Free internet, good food, decent view of the street to check out the action, pool tables, and a swimming pool. A great meeting place and ideal "down-time" location.

Over the course of the stay, we also visited the "Perimeter" bars, named for their location reference to the main bars here and the base. These are also more "ex-pat" bars than tourists. But that is an entirely different discussion.

We visited the Blue Nile and Nero's (??), the second of which I wasn't very happy with, as the better-looking girls were interested only in the Japanese customers and wouldn't make eye contact at all with us "hansum men". Went back more than once and was the same story.  There is also Cheetah’s Club, Cambodia Club, and the Blue Nile Hotel.

Went to Misty's, next to ... Molly Malones.  Wow - 60-70 girls; three shifts of no less than 22 girls. One shift had 30. Three mamasans; and 22 girls on stage at a time. Interesting bar and had fun here.

[2019:  I miss Misty's]

Just as a pointer through – Misty’s is part of the group of bars that have raised all their prices and have raised barfines from 1000 ($18USD)  to 1200 pesos ($21.80USD).  Some of the ex-pats are boycotting these clubs because of the increase.  In my opinion, all of the AC bars will soon follow suit and the prices will be increased across the board.

Barfines include the girl’s payment (which is 50% of the 1000 barfine, but less than 50% on the 1200 barfine) although most tip in the morning for decent service.  Also, not all girls will stay all night although they SHOULD tell you this before you bar fine them as it is typically “expected”.  You might want to make sure though to prevent any problems.  I tip 500 pesos in the morning ($9USD) which is high to some, but low to others that I spoke with.

Just in talking, I found that the girls working daytime bars expected that the bar fine was for a “short time”.  Night time girls were typical “long-time” or all night.

On the same side as Misty’s, is Welkom Inn, Bananitas, Treasure Island, and Lancelot(?).  To me Treasure Island should be a doghouse – I didn’t like this bar at all and never returned.  To be fair, my friend liked the bar and thought they had some real cuties.  Welkom Inn was ok – and there were a few girls there that I liked, plus they open earlier in the day.  Across the street from them is the Dirty Duck bar, which gets wild at times.

La Bamba, across from Kokomos, is a small club that has a strange setup. There is no real "stage" here -- kind of just an area on the floor at the back of the club where the girls shift back and forth.

[2019: I do not remember this????? This must be a mistake]

Another interesting thing about Philippine's clubs is the lack of Dancing Poles. In Pattaya, we always say that the girls couldn't function if they didn't have their pole to hang on. The absence of those poles in AC really makes the dancing and interaction more interesting. First, because poles are usually placed far apart, the girls don't interact as much. In AC, with no poles, and small stages, the girls seem to interact much more Second, I felt that the girls in AC bars seemed to be more attached to each other, more like "family" than many in the Pattaya bars. Poles don't encourage group dancing - which AC seemed to have a lot of.

There are also MORE girls per club than in Pattaya.  Perhaps because there aren’t a proliferation of beer bars like Pattaya, the girls get crammed into few clubs – which means more girls.  I mentioned Misty’s earlier – as Misty’s had 22 girls on stage per rotation; on a stage designed for 12 comfortably.  But it was much more fun to see the sheer number of girls.

On the same side of the street as La Bamba is Blue Fox, managed by a former US native Italian by the name of Tango. His name could have easily been Uncle Guido because if you saw him out one night dressed all in black, you probably would change sides of the street just so you didn't walk in his path. But none of that gives his personality any credit -- he is one of the nicest managers I met while in AC. He also runs a 2 for 1 happy hour, and gives 2-for-1 drink coupons at the street all night long.  You can really get a bottle of San Mig light for 65pesos, and the second one is free.

[2019: Things have definitely changed!  hahahahah]

Next door to La Bamba and Blue Fox are other bars, including Lollipop, Geckos and DMZ (and who knows what else!) ; and there are two other bars across the street; Angeles and another one I can’t remember.  We had a good time in all.

Between the Blue Nile and the Blue Fox, there are more than a dozen bars, 95% of which I don't remember the names. I think we went into every one of them at one time or another.

If you are not familiar, you can think of Blue Nile as one "end post" of Fields avenue and Margarita Station at the other end of the street as the other "end post". Blue Fox isn't even halfway to the rest of the bars.

However, the same block that has Blue Fox, also has several other clubs on the backside, on the same street as the Orchid, and the short road to our hotel. Clubs there that I remember were Confetti's and ??, plus the pick up disco, which as I write this, I haven't been to yet.  Never made it into Pickup disco as well as a few other clubs on the back street.

Walking down Fields away from Kokomoz, you see a Sub-Delicious restaurant on your left on the corner of the first street. Upstairs is a restaurant/bar with pool tables and lots of television screens. It is open 24 hours a day, and a favorite of the girls after the bars close.  The food is decent; service slow, but still a decent place to go.  Downstairs is the main restaurant with both indoor and outdoor seating. The food is decent.

If you walked toward the Orchid hotel near the Sub-D shop, you would find the Las Vegas Club and the ?? club. Las Vegas was decent, but the ?? club was strange -- as it was similar to a Karaoke club with girls singing poorly.  Las Vegas club had some decent girls but no one we took.  And I forget to take pictures of this club which was one of the more interesting designs.

After that is Roadhouse, Private Dancer, and on the side street, Butterfly Rock.  We went into Roadhouse a few times.  It is a different type of club as the girls all dance together line-dance style.  Many good looking and friendly girls and a great management team.  Private Dancer was ok, but I didn’t find anything there – although my friend did.  Butterfly Rock turned out to be a surprise club.  We had a great time and took ladies from this club.  The owner is English and is not shy about buying his patrons a round of drinks.  I was surprised that they had more than a few cherry girls here.

After that is The Jungle, Bunny Ranch, Kitten Club, Brown Sugar, Camelot, and Insomnia.  I remember Bunny Ranch as we went there a few times and took ladies from here.  This is another club that is part of the group that has raised rates on drinks and barfines.  We also visited Insomnia a few times and had fun, although we never barfined from here.

There is a 7-11 and a grocery store in this group of bars.  And you end up at Margarita Station.

Getting around Angeles is by Jeepney or Trikes.  I never did ride in a Jeepney, but I did take a few trikes.  

ATM’s ANGELES CITY

There is now an ATM machine located at Kokomoz.  However, during my trip, it was available only about 1 in 10 times.  6 out of service; 1 transaction not allowed, and 1 “your bank is not connected”.  

The main ATM to use is at Metro Bank, a short distance from Kokomoz.  If daytime and you like to walk, it isn’t a bad walk.  Otherwise, it is a 50peso trike ride in each direction.  Metro Bank is direct across from the Casino Philippino Angeles, and just down the street from Johnny’s Supermarket and Savers Mall.  Metro Bank is both a cirrus and Visa/Electron atm.  You may only withdraw 4000 pesos each time.  You can continue to take out the money in 4000 peso increments, but if your bank charges a fee – you are paying that fee each time you take out 4000 pesos ($73USD).

SHOPPING CENTERS

The biggest shopping center is Savers mall across the street from the Metro Bank ATM.  It is just down the street from Johnny's Supermarket which is also one of the bigger grocery stores.

COFFEE SHOPS

If you are looking to get away from the bars and are taking a walk or trike to the ATM, there are two coffee shops next door to the bank.  Didn’t try either one but they are very NICE in appearance and probably a nice way to spend a few hours if you wanted to have coffee with friends or read the paper.

ICE AND WATER

You always read to NOT drink the water and NOT order anything with ice.  For years now, I have been ignoring the ice warning in Asian countries as it has never affected me.  I read special warnings about the Philippines as well, and how “dangerous” the ice was.

I used ice in every drink.  I ordered extra ice.  At Kokomoz, you get a huge jar of drink filled with ice.  And none of us got sick.  The ice is brought in – made from purified water.  There is no reason to worry anymore.

I didn’t drink the local water of course.  And at the hotel, the water smelled REALLY strong; the smell of well water.  Had I ever smelled that in ice, I wouldn’t have had the ice that time!  But all the caution is unnecessary. Who wants to drink a beverage in a hot climate with no ice?  Of course, if you are drinking alcohol, you even have to worry less as the alcohol will help disinfect the ice for you!!

Overall, my trip to the Philippines cost $1,050 USD.  This included my round-trip air to Bangkok, all taxis, hotels, food, and entertainment.  8 nights / 9 days.  Cost per day of $117USD (very little alcohol).  Excluding airfare and taxis to and from the airport, I averaged about $84USD (hotel, food, drinks, and entertainment).

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Current Mongering Updated Information October 2021

Current Mongering Information And Photos

The Philippines and Thailand Mongering Current Situation


Right now both the Philippines and Thailand are beginning to ease restrictions due to Covid. This is good news for both countries and tourists around the world. 

While many red-light districts are still shut down, some are slowly starting to creep back open with other establishments opening early and closing around 8:00 pm in Angeles City and Manila. Traditional Go-Go bars are currently no longer allowed in most areas in the Philippines. The format has shifted to more of a sports bar cafe concept with many girls as "waitresses" or GROs (Guest Relation Officers).

 As many know, the above changes are very loose. Meaning if you have money to spend and know how to get your way, basically you can still dictate the party although a more careful and cautious approach is required.  

To give readers an idea of how things are in Angeles City Philippines, here's a video from Field Avenue by Phillyinthephilippines you should enjoy:


Currently, both the Philippines and Thailand require travelers to quarantine themselves for 7 days but this is supposed to be lifted or changed to few days very soon.

More on Thailand in the next post coming soon.

Sunday, November 8, 2020

Essential Instant Messaging Apps For Mongering in Southeast Asia

 Instant Messaging Apps You Need For Mongering in Southeast Asia

Essential Instant Messaging App For Mongering In Asia


One important thing to remember about prostitution is it is always available no matter what. There are certain tools you need to use in various countries in Southeast Asia. A combination of dating apps and instant messaging apps like LINE, Viber, WeChat, Skype, and Whatsapp. Certain countries use certain apps more so the information here will be a great guide.

Instant messaging apps are important to use in Asia because regular text messaging can be expensive for the local girls or they do not wish to give out their real numbers. So the use of instant messaging apps is common. Avoid using Facebook or Instagram with your real information as this can open up a can of worms and cause you problems later. I’ll talk more about that in “Things You Should Never Do While Mongering In Asia”.

It is important to try not installing all these instant messaging apps on your device, even if it is powerful because they will slow down other features as they embed themselves into your smartphone rather heavily so if you only use say WeChat for one or two places, uninstall it when you won’t be returning if you do not wish to stay in contact with any girls you might meet.

If you like to stay in contact with the girls make sure you centralize all those contacts into one app like Viber or Whatsapp. You can also install PC or MAC versions of this to use on your computer for those who are tech-savvy. I personally find that a better option as you can get into some awkward situations having young girls from Asia messaging you on your phone back in your home country. Just saying

That covers the ways to communicate back and forth with prostitutes you want to meet in Asia, now let’s talk about the dating apps that are most effective for finding prostitutes in Asia.

Click on the link below for an article on dating apps in Asia to get laid and find prostitutes. I will also explain the best ways to give you the most options. The more options, the better chance you have of finding more beautiful girls.

Click the link below for dating apps to use for finding prostitutes or hookups in Asia:

Dating Apps or Websites To Use Mongering In Asia


Mongering in Asia Updated Information Guide For 2020

 Asian Mongering Guide For 2020 Post Covid 19

 Information And Updates On Finding Asian Girls For Sex While Traveling

I started mongering in Asia and around the world close to 30 years ago. I decided to write down this information into a good resource to help guys out and save them a lot of time since the outbreak of Covid 19, which has changed a lot of things. Many nightlife areas have either shut down completely, toned things down by changing formats, or the action has moved to other locations nearby.

In this guide, I will break down how to achieve the end goal of finding the hottest Asian girls possible at the most affordable prices possible. You will also get up to date information on the prices you should expect to pay and tips on where to stay. Also, how to get around from point A to B avoiding taxi ripoffs or other scams that are common in many cities around the World, not only in Asia.

Some of the best information you will find in this guide is what apps to use for communicating with the girls and the best dating apps to use for certain countries. Every country is slightly different and I will lay out the basics of what you need to be aware of, along with links to resources for more in-depth and sometimes real-time information.

I will also include guides on What NOT TO DO to avoid any problems either during your trip and things to consider before and after your trip. Being prepared and having the knowledge makes mongering in Asia both fun and free of any problems. Cherry boys or first-time travelers often make really expensive mistakes that could have never happened if they did some research or paid a small fee for solid information. That is what this guide is for and I am asking a small amount of money for information that took me years of experience and tens of thousands of dollars of my own money.

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Saturday, January 16, 2016

First Trip to Jakarta Indonesia For Mongering Interesting

Mongering in Asia Updated Information Guide 2020


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Very interesting things in Jakarta Indonesia for mongering seems to be lots of resources to find Indonesian girls, but the traffic inside the city is horrible.

I stayed near Shangra La hotel, which has Bats Bar, a hangout for prostitutes

Many Indonesian girls want foreign man, using Tinder,  Date in Asia, Wechat (mostly escort companies on WeChat)

The first girl, from Tinder, we meet and hang out at the hotel lobby for a bit. 
She's simple not a stunning hot Indonesian girl but cute. After an hour, we're in my room, she lets me know she's a virgin and promised her parents she wouldn't give it away. I wasn't trying to force on her, so think she was telling the truth. She gave her first BJ and took her first facial. If I worked on it a bit more, probably could have taken her virginity, but rather her keep her promise to wait for marriage. Just a normal date and fun, no charge

Second girl, WeChat contact. You'll get contacted all day long by companies asking if you want a massage.
They'll send you a girl, been hit and miss, the first girl wasn't too cute but was an ok session

Third girl, DIA date, she wants to meet me with her friend who canceled, so it's just us. 
We meet at the mall, hang out for a bit, back at the hotel, she tells me we can't do anything, now this girl was very shy and innocent, tiny girl, very much expected she was a virgin too given the first experience. But she's had a few men. One thing leads to another and she gives it all up. Another freebie

Been talking to another girl on Tinder who tells me she wants a foreign man to take her virginity and wants to meet.
Seems very legit, but she was pretty ugly, so I couldn't pull the trigger on that one. 

Finally, to Bats, find a skinny girl who very cute, take her to the room.

Another girl has been messaging me all day on WeChat and says she's in bats now, seems she's some sort of unknown model, who's only here a few weeks. 
I take her later in the night.

Try another Wechat connect during the day, and some very cute girl shows up, then as we're getting started, she starts crying (which sickly turns me on). She just doesn't like what she does, but does it pretty well.

Many of the girls seem ok with doing it all-natural, similar to Angeles. 
Girls all have the same large boobs in clothes like girls in Philippines, but when they take off clothes, it's actual tits, and not just padding.

The downside is the selection is pretty small, I didn't make it to other bars like Blok M, or CJ's, but overall, pretty pleased with Jakarta

Mongering in Jakarta Indonesia December 2015

 
The Big Durian is, IMHO, THE best city on the planet for chasing indonesian prostitute girls. Just LOVE them (and they love US!).  And most Muslims in Indonesia have less sexual hangups than most Catholic girls.    The traffic and cigarette smoke are the two biggest bummers.   Avoid traveling  South to North in the morning, or North to South in late afternoons or evenings. If you MUST, take the Transjakarta busway which has a dedicated lane and is MUCH faster than taxis.  ONLY take Blue Bird Group taxis. Repeat: ONLY take Blue Bird Group taxis. 

Block M has gone to shit in recent years. BATS is also WAY passed its prime (CJ's at the Melia is the MUCH more in spot for high end freelancers). DO check out Marabaya Massage on 4th floor of Hotel Melawai in Block M. Dayshift MUCH better than night.  Great place to meet expats to show you secret spots. The Kota Indah bars have fresh from the kampung girls for cheap prices but almost no English spoken and the smoke is intolerable. Suggest Hotel Travel as an easier alternative for a first timer.Bahasa is the simplest language on Earth to learn so DO try to learn a bit. Will help you a lot.

Kota has best girlie action but is not a pleasant place (VERY polluted, crowded and noisy) .  To see the upscale parts of Jakarta, must go SOUTH of Block M to Menteng and Keborayan Baru. Loads of great restaurants there too (Kota is a culinary wasteland) . One of the very best is  Turkuaz, an AWESOME Turkish restaurant in a lovely facility that looks like a Sultan's palace.    The leafy boulevards in that area are a World apart from Kota (North Jakarta). 

Plaza Senayan, about 2/3rds the way South, is THE happening spot on the weekends especially,  where Jakarta's rich girls go to party. Unlike Thailand and the PI, rich girls are not off limits to foreigners in Jakarta, quite the contrary. Spacing on the name of the big nightclub there now but if you go at night on a weekend just follow the crowd.  Dress sharp, Angeles City Pattaya wear will NOT do (they wont let you in if wearing shorts or flipflops etc).

Monday, October 28, 2013

Mongering Nightlife in Geneva Switzerland



A Monger in Geneva


Geneva Swtizerland isn't well known as a mongering or nightlife spot and with good reason but like most European cities though it has its share of hidden brothels and streetwalkers freelance girls. So for anyone over there on business or a layover, here are my insights from my recent trip to Geneva. 

The red light district of Geneva Switzerland is in an Central NE area of the city called "Paquis" and specifically down a road called "Rue de Berne". there is usually one or two SW around whatever time of day you go there but from 6pm onwards the numbers really swell. I was there on a Friday night and in my 20 minute wanderings I would say that I saw 200 SW with 3 establishments with ladies advertising themselves in the windows (around 5 girls in each of there). The quality was poor overall with all the ones I saw over 35 (oldest one must have been 50!), about 60% white, 30% black and 10% Asian (I believe Thai). None higher than a 6 on a hotness scale and most around a 4 and overweight. Anyone wandering around should be warned there are loads of African youths hanging around. I think they are the pimps but didn't stick around long enough to find out the prices (I hear i can be CHF100 for 20 mins).

The brothel scene has much better picks. Each brothel has 4-6 girls on duty at a time when you walk in they are lined up in the hallway ready for your inspection usually topless or in lingerie. All are very slim , toned and 25yrs or younger. Mostly blonde Eastern European but some Spanish/ Latin/ Italian. They were on average an 8, the worst one I saw was a 7.5. So the prices can also be found on the website but FYI it was CHF100 for 20 minutes & CHF200 for 30 minutes. I got a BBBJCIM for CHF200, expensive compared to Asia but hey .... works out cheaper than a date with a regular girl in the West.

This chain has 7 hidden brothels around the city of Geneva. Went to see 4 of them which have been marked on the attached map. The best on I think is down "Rue Rodo" (marked with the largest spot). If you don't like the one on the first floor there is also another branch on the ground floor and a rival chain called "Venusia" right next door. FYI Venusia is open 24hrs charges about the same price as Geneva girls (which opens 11am-2am) but their girls are much less appealing being on average older and not as toned. Hotness scale of 5-7 for Venusia.

Also, completely unrelated to sex, there is a great English pub 200m away called "Lady Godiva" the food is pretty good, beers are all imported British and they show Premier league football. A great place to recover from your exertions with the girls.

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Thursday, October 10, 2013

Mongering Trip Rio De Janeiro Brazil July 2013



Brazil Monger Story and Sex Prices 2013 2014


I arrived in Rio De Janeiro Brazil Monday afternoon and have gone to Balcony every night and pulled what I consider to be Brazilian hotties from the bar. Have not paid more than 150R for any one of them, all have started with 200 all accepted 150 right away when I countered. Some have wanted 10R for the cab ride back which I have given to them. My apartment is at the far end of Copacabana almost in Ipanema and balcony is way at the opposite end of Copacabana, I have walked from my apartment to balcony at 1 or 2:am by myself and have felt perfectly safe never a problem. I have heard this place is supposed to be very dangerous at night and maybe at one time it was but from my experience the place has improved and is safe. In my opinion balcony has some Brazilian hotties available. 

Afternoon Brazil Mongering


My mongering friend and I visited Villa Mimosa yesterday and I session with a Brazilian girl there total cost 50R for the girl and 12R for a half hour room. The room was clean and better than the rooms at T81 in Centro. I was surprised at how small the area is, I was a bit apprehensive when we got there but afterwards I felt safe about the whole experience and will probably go back on my own (in the day time) before I leave. Personally I thought there were some attractive women to be found in there. The best way to get to Villa mimosa is to take the metro from Copocabana and exit the Praca Onze station and then take a cab from there, it’s only a few blocks away and shouldn’t be more than 10R.     

We have visited 4X4 T30 T502 and T81 in Centro in my opinion there are attractive Brazilian women to be had at all of these places. 4x4 charged 260R for 40 minutes and has a 50R (I think) entry fee but if you session before 5:pm the entry fee is waived. T30 has a 30R entry fee with three drinks 145R for the half hour and 190R for 40 minutes, ask for Paula if you go there sexxxxy hot blond Brazilian girl does complete all three imputes super energetic and gives the best deep throat blow job I’ve had in a long time. T502 has a 20R entry fee with two drinks and 150R for 40 minutes and T81 has a 10R entry fee with two drinks and is 120R for the hour 90R for 40 minutes and 80R for the half hour but the rooms are a real dungeon. All of these termas are in a few blocks of each other and all can be reached from the metro if you exit the uragaiana station. I have found Centro to be very safe especially during the day time. We have been there as late as 9 or 10:pm and the place was still safe at that time.

Two things I have found that I do not like about the Brazilian girls, many seem to be taking steroids to get that big lag big ass look which does not turn me on. Twice I have taken what I thought were hot nice big assed chicks in the low disco lights of the boat  only to see them in the cabin to think I fucked up and got a post op tranny  because of the steroids they were on. Another thing I find annoying is many of the Brazilian women want to stick their finger in your ass when they are blowing you or even when you are trying to fuck them, this does not turn me on at all and in fact kills the mood for me, my vertical starts going horizontal any time they try doing that.

Was in Thailand for 20 days before I came to Rio De Janeiro for mongering practically came directly from Thailand to Rio, spent two days back in the United States and then on to Rio De Janeiro for some mongering and Brazilian girls. Fucked over 60 Thai chicks while I was there and personally I think on average the Thai chicks fuck better than the Brazilian chicks. However, far more Brazilian girls will let you fuck them in the ass than Thai chicks will.

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